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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2001 7:48 pm
by KPJ
One more blue Monday

Peter

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2001 8:02 pm
by Junebug
Have received SF 5.5r11 for LS2000, but am having problems upgrading to IT8. Am working with Tech Support to figure this out, but am wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
Registering SF5.5 seems to work OK, but upgrading to IT8 is creating a problem.
After registering.. hitting prescan will cause a "No Memory" or a hang of my computer.
Have added memory (86 megs) trashed prefs, swapped Nikon Maid modules. Seven attempts to upgrade to IT8 and PreScan shuts everything down.
I am on a Macintosh, Sys 9.1, Photoshop 6.01. Anyone upgraded to LS2000 IT8 sucessfully ?
------UPDATE-----
Have received SilverFast 5.5r12 and my problems have gone away. I'll be doing a lot of scanning the rest of this week and will report again.

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Junebug Clark / detroit
http://www.MooreClark.com

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:03 pm
by Guest
knowing the huge demand for a super duper 5.5 upgrade for the ls2000, such preparations shoud have been scheduled and done in advance to minimize ls2000 owners waiting!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2001 10:23 pm
by xander
I have been working about five days now with the SF5.5 for LS2000/LS4000, its version 5.5r06++.
It pretty well works OK, but there are a few glitches, this is maybe the reason why its not released yet.

Xander

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2001 8:51 pm
by ianders1
Well, for all of you who've been waiting, it looks like both the Windows and Mac versions are finally up on the downloads page:

http://www.silverfast.com/silverfast/up ... ex-en.html

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2001 9:43 am
by Ekkehard
Hello,
thanks for all information about availability, challenges, ... of v5.5 for LS4000!
Ekkehard

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2001 5:03 pm
by Junebug
SF 5.5 r12 - Still not working

Nikon LS2000, SF200, IT8, Mac 9.1, Photoshop 6.01.

I can register Silverfast and upgrade to IT8 and SF200. It can be calibrated. It will scan a couple of times. I've shut down and when I come back to scan with SF5.5r12, LS2000 will autofocus, auto expose, but as soon as you hear the motor engage to prescan... everything locks up. Throwing out the prefs and re-registering will repeat this cycle. Have gone through this eight times now. Reverting back to SF5.2r8 clears up any problem.

Also... when using SF5.5r12 and doing a "P"oint focus. The dialog box appears. On other version of SF you focused on a pretty good blow up (representing the "P"oint chosen to focus on) in SF5.5r12 the dialog box, with before and after focus, indicates that you are now focusing on about 3/4 of the image, not a blow up section.

I am reverting back to SF5.2r8 this weekend to get some work done and anxiously await the next revision to try out.


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http://www.MooreClark.com

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2001 8:08 pm
by xander
Junebug,

Did you completly remove all the items of your former versions of Silverfast, "the Prefs"
I run a windows 2000 system, but if you don't remove these Prefs the next version doesn't install right!

Xander

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 12:46 pm
by Junebug
When installing a Silverfast upgrade on my Mac, I delete the entire SilverFast(NikonM) folder out of my Photoshop Import/Export folder. When reinstalling an update I first delete the Prefs folder inside the Silverfast folder.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 12:21 am
by xander
SF 5.5R09 is here!

I think I am getting happy, Negafix was introduced in august or so for all scanners but not for Nikon. When it arrived for Nikon I thought for a while I was happy, but I was defenitly not!!! It was buggy and not at all "Negafixing", I was doubting about my scanner, about my camera's (also Nikon!)just about everything. My telephone bill will be sky high, and Clovis Kohler will be sick of me by now, but the most problematic negative (a Superia 400 4th color layer slightly underexposed)scanned with SF5.5R09 was at last the way it should be. A second and third the same! The exposure is much better the colors much closer!

I am happy!

Xander

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:53 am
by xander
I don't use them alot. But while scanning Kodak Gold 200, with SF5.5R09. I found out that the results using "Negative Nikon ", = not using Negafix (the hardware based transformation from negative to positive in the LS4000), was giving much better results!!!!!!!!!!!

Switching between the two options is quiet easy, I only have a little problem in shift of the histogram while switching between the two transformatons.

Xander

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:25 pm
by xander
I would like to know from Lasersoft what they "fixed" with version 5.5R14??
I can not use the hardware based negative positive transformation ("negative nikon") anymore, and there is still a considerable shift in the histogram while using some profiles, with negafix.
Still Silverfast is not able to handle the negs in the SA 21 as Nikonscan does.
What's wrong?? This 5.5R14 looks more like a set back.

Xander

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:34 pm
by xander
In the posting in this forum about the SA21, the following link:
http://www.lasersoft-imaging.com/forum/ ... &forum=1&6

Was a reply from Clovis Kohler (LSI) about a problem with the SA21 in Silverfast 5.5, he had partly the same problems I have with the SA21 and Silverfast (not Nikonscan or v**s**n), he pointed out the next link:

http://www.silverfast.com/support/nikon ... all-en.htm

In this link is clearly stated SF5.5R09 and up should not be installed together with Nikonscan(due to overwriting by Nikonscan of certain files)
I have a windows 2000 system, running the latest version of SF5.5. After following the advice about removing Nikonscan, my scans improved on positives!
Before I used Nikonscan for positives because its results looked simply better and sharper. There is no difference between Silverfast/Nikonscan and v**s**n anymore on positives now after removing Nikonscan from the terminal with SF5.5. The biggest setback is that Silverfast and Nikonscan can not be together anymore on one computer, in my opinion a serious shortcoming of Silverfast.
I looks to me there is a strange thing going on with Silverfast and Nikon scanners, for some time now.
The support of the SA21 is lacking (probably more adapters have this problem)and its not being picked up by LSI!
Can somebody explain to me why a low priced product like v**s**n works whithout faults, and SF5.5 (very expensive) keeps showing these problems?

Input please!

Xander

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2001 8:26 pm
by poliwog
Can somebody explain to me why a low priced product like v**s**n works whithout faults, and SF5.5 (very expensive) keeps showing these problems?


Short answer 1: Because Ed Hamrick has the algorithms right.

Short answer 2: Because LSI charges half the price of the full Photoshop application, they try to put in half the features, and mess up the basics.

Answer I think is correct: Silverfast is simply going the wrong way round on Nikon support. I have heard too many people I respect praising SF to the skies-- on non-Nikon hardware-- to believe that the software itself is inherently flawed. On the other hand, I am not an inexperienced user of either computer hardware or software, and I simply CANNOT make SF/Nikon work well at all.

I understand the purported advantages of SF over software like VS, which requires virtually all editing, sharpening, color correction etc. to be done in Photoshop, LivePicture or whatever. Accomplishing this in the scanner software is preferable in principle; however, the implementation seems here to be fatally flawed. On the other hand, v**s**n usually nails the scan so close to my original intention, that I need only minor color and gamma corrections in PS or LP. The end result is that VS is far simpler and more effective than playing with corrections in SF, howsoever sophisticated they may be.

Les