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embedded profiles and CMS

Postby scantech » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:19 am

I'm confused about how Silverfast (8 Ai) is handling profiles in the color management settings of Preferences.
The Mark Segal book leads me to believe that the custom scanner profile I created and selected in the “Input” field of the CMS preferences will be embedded in the scanned image.
However, clearly the profile selected for the “Internal” field is the profile that gets embedded in the image, in this case Adobe RGB (1998).

Is Silverfast applying the scanner profile during capture and then converting it to Adobe RGB (and embedding it) after the scan is complete?
What's happening when I open the image in Photoshop?

This question relates to reflective scanning - the screenshot shows my settings. thanks!
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Re: embedded profiles and CMS

Postby LSI_Ketelhohn » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:27 pm

Dear customer,

The scanner's input profile is used as the colorspace for all the calculations in SilverFast.
At the end the image is rendered into the internal colorspace (in this case AdobeRGB).

This is the standard workflow.
Many applications can not handle the device colorspace.

The scanner colorspace is only embedded into our 16/32/48/64 bit HDR(i) Archive Suite files.
These are saved unprocessed for later processing in SilverFast HDR (Studio).
The rendering into the final colorspace then takes place in SilverFast HDR (studio).


So your current setup is good for Photoshop.
Photoshop can handle AdobeRGB well of cause.

In case you open images with an embedded device colorspace you would have to make sure that Photoshop does not auto convert the image during import.

kind regards,
Arne Ketelhohn.

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Re: embedded profiles and CMS

Postby LSI_Ketelhohn » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:27 pm

Dear customer,

The scanner's input profile is used as the colorspace for all the calculations in SilverFast.
At the end the image is rendered into the internal colorspace (in this case AdobeRGB).

This is the standard workflow.
Many applications can not handle the device colorspace.

The scanner colorspace is only embedded into our 16/32/48/64 bit HDR(i) Archive Suite files.
These are saved unprocessed for later processing in SilverFast HDR (Studio).
The rendering into the final colorspace then takes place in SilverFast HDR (studio).


So your current setup is good for Photoshop.
Photoshop can handle AdobeRGB well of cause.

In case you open images with an embedded device colorspace you would have to make sure that Photoshop does not auto convert the image during import.

kind regards,
Arne Ketelhohn.


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