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HP ScanJet 5100c

Postby lanosalf » Tue May 12, 2009 6:12 am

I´m tring the hp 6.6.0r5 trial version of silverfast, but the program doesn´t recognize my scanner. However in the SF_LogFile.txt created launching the service dialog appears this:

SCSI devices
Name: Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5100C
Description: Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5100C
Location: Image
Driver mfg: Hewlett-Packard
Path: \Device\Shuttle1000
Low-level name: SCSI\HP______C5190A__________3

So, in some way silverfast recognize it but doesn´t want to use it.
Is there a way to solve this? I read a lot of posts here in silverfast forum with the same problem, someone said that installing aspi drivers the problem will be sloved and others said the oposite that deleting aspi drivers in windows system folders the problem will be solved. None of these solutions works for me.
What can i do?

PS: In silverfast page hp scanjet 5100c is listed as supported

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Re: HP ScanJet 5100c

Postby LSI_Ketelhohn » Wed May 20, 2009 8:27 am

Dear lanosalf,

to properly help you I need to know your operating system and SCSI connection type (cardtype or SCSI2FireWire adapter).
In our SCSI FAQ some SCSI cards are mentioned which need to use an older ASPI layer driver to function properly.
For current Mac systems only a few SCSI cards are still supported by Apple's OSX, this is also described in our FAQ.

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Re: HP ScanJet 5100c

Postby lanosalf » Thu May 21, 2009 6:19 am

I´m using Windows XP 32 bits.
This scanner has a scsi2parallel port adapter. This is how HP sold this unit. HP didn´t sell a trully SCSI hp 5100 c scanner ever. But it is not a parrallel port scanner. Like is described in HP site it is connected in parallel port but with the scsi2PP adapter it uses protocols, etc like an usual scsi scanner. In the Pc it works like a scsi, that´s why silverfast recognize it as a SCSI device.
So, i have some questions:
*Do you know if this unit can also be connected directly to a scsi card?(I don´t have one to test with it)
This is not mentioned in HP site.
*Could you verify how this scanner is supported by silverfast?
Because hp scanner 5100 c is not primarly intented to connect directly to a scsi card. But perhaps you can ask in silverfast how this unit is supported and eventually it can also be connected to a SCSI card directly, altought this is not mentioned in HP site.

In conclusion i´m interested in silverfast program. If the scanner can be connected directly to a SCSI card, and if this is the way that hp scanjet 5100 c is supported by silverfast i eventually cauld buy a scsi card.
However, if this scanner is supported connecting it to the parrallel port (with the SCSI2Parrallel port adapter), how can i get it to work? Because Silverfast recognize the HP 5100c as a SCSI device, but, however, says that non scanner is connected when i lunch the program.

Thanks in advance

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Re: HP ScanJet 5100c

Postby LSI_Ketelhohn » Fri May 22, 2009 1:27 pm

Dear lanosalf,

are you sure it is a converter for the parallel port?
This scanner normally sold with an adapter cable so it can be connected it to different types of SCSI card.
The interface is similar to the parallel port and even fits on it.
But this would not enable you to use it this way.

But even if it is a parallel port adapter we can not support this type of connection.

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Re: HP ScanJet 5100c

Postby lanosalf » Sat May 23, 2009 5:53 am

The scanner has a 25 pin male connector. So with a normal parallel port cable (25 pin female to 25 pin male) i connect the 25 female end in the male connector of the scanner and the other 25 pin male end in the parallel port in my pc. This is how is explained in HP site. And in this way the scanner is working perfect with th hp precision scan program and with WIA in Windows XP 32 bits. So with a normal pport cable the scanner not only fits in the pport, it also works.
When i connect for the first time the scanner, XP fisrt detect SCMPport adapter and install the drivers of this converter, and then, detect the hp scanjet 5100 c and install the specific drivers of this scanner. So if it is a scsi2pport adapter it is inside the scanner.
I am very grateful for your help, but you are explaining to me how normal SCSI scanners are, they usually have a 50 pin connector in the scanner, and the cable for the connection to the scsi card has in the other end different types of connectors for the different types of scsi card,there are ones that have 25 pin like the pport , and others 50 pin and so on...
So i dont want to bother you but,
How is the scanner hp 5100 c supported by silverfast?
Is it posible to connect this scanner directly to a scsi card? This is something i dont know and it is not mentioned in hp site, i dont have an scsi card to test, but perhaps someone in silverfast hardware support knows if this is posible.
I know that hp 5100c is an old scanner but someone there at least on time was able to use this scanner with silverfast, so:
How did they connect the scanner?
Did they use the pport?(note that xp detects and intereacts with the scanner like if it is a scsi device)
Or did they connect the scanner to a scsi card like if this scanner were a normal scsi device?
i´m interested primarly in last question because if that is posible i could buy a scsi card to use it with silverfast.
If not, Is it posible that there is an error in silverfast supportd scanner page and this scanner is not supported?

Thanks again


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